What’s the best Louver Roof Verandah?

What’s the best Louvre Roof Verandah?Open and closing Louver Roof

What’s the best Louvre Roof Verandah question is difficult to answer without each manufacturer passionately suggesting theirs is the best louver roof system. The real answer is probably related more to your overall expectations of durability, weather resistant factors, visual project design’s outcome and finally price. I will review some  items that to me on balance should be considered.

Durability – this will relate to both blade and to the opening roof system – motor and general mechanism. Heavily debatable but my experience on blade systems is that aluminum blades do provide best durable outcomes certainly around seaside applications where rust could become an issue. Aluminum although often more expensive to colorbond blade options should provide greater durability, span options and performance if installed correctly.

Louvre Blades – Two louver types seem to occupy the opening and closing louver roof market – Colorbond or Aluminum. Check that warranties include a minimum 10-year warranty and that local maintenance options are available. Clearly nobody wants a problem but worse if no local dealer available to attend to any problem arising. Some have stainless steel and aluminum pins and connections which should also ensure greater durability.

Colorbond – generally a two piece pressed blade with foam within the core.

Cons

  • Less robust than aluminum options and subject to rust.
  • Colour options are also restricted but main options normally available.
  • Often at the cheaper end of the market.

Plus’s

  • Generally Cheaper

Aluminum – Generally a solid robust louver with powder coated or anodized finishes.

Cons

  • Often dearer than colorbond

Plus’s

  • Colour options are not restricted with stunning wood grain options available.
  • Performance normally more predictable.
  • More blade style choices
  • Greater span options
  • Easy to maintainOpening and closing roof

Louvre Opening Systems – As louver roof systems have now been around for over 20 years you will find most manufacturers have systems that will do the job of opening and closing your roof. Certainly some systems can be much more complicated and therefore expensive to purchase, install and maintain. Check your warranty options to ensure minimum 3 years for electrical and what components might be subject to ongoing maintenance.

“A main difference may be speed of opening, amount they will open and noise related to movement of louver. A main issue might be the “opening capacity 90, 135 & 175 degree” as how much you can open your roof from closed can provide more light and shade options to the user”.

Most systems will offer a range of options

  • Rain sensor
  • Home cbus integration
  • Remote controls
  • Lighting & Blind integration

Weather Resistant – Although I have seen some reviews suggesting otherwise my own research and experience tells me most manufacturers can now provide great product performance when its raining.

“Certainly cloud burst or torrential rain might provide some abnormal issue’s, as with any roof, under most conditions the louver roof will perform for many years if installed correctly”.

Project Outcome – this relates not only to the actual “louver look” but also to the actual frame outcome. Having your project match or compliment your dwelling will ensure more compatibility and a better visual outcome. Pricing (cost) clearly comes into the equation however ensuring a compatible outcome will provide strong payback in terms of visual outcome and long-term durability. Frankly a closed louver will provide similar looks between one and another underneath by around the area is just as an important factor. The difference will be in the eye of the beholder but my suggestion is make a whole project decision not a one component decision. Therefore, ensure a reasonable weighting to frame construction and its looks should be 50% of your decision outcome.

General frame options (although not all manufacturers can offer these options) that can be considered include:

  • double bank ouver roofColorbond Steel Frame
  • Standard Steel – Painted
  • Aluminum
  • Timber
  • Rendered frames

Proven Service – having the capacity to have your opening and closing system serviced is a smart decision. Motors will grow old, component’s will ware and other factors arise that require rectification. Ensuring you pick long-term locally based distributors with some maintenance options will provide further peace of mind to your purchase.

Pricing – There can be many factors that make prices vary. Certainly I feel if you balance your needs with the needs of ongoing performance will ensure you consider the pricing option right for you. A couple of price and design price options should be considered to establish the price level of your verandah for you to consider.

Summary – What’s the best Louvre Roof Verandah, well not an easy answer but certainly there are a range of factors you now know what you might consider when deciding on your builder. Picking an established builder with direct experience in louver roofs who can provide you the design outcome, benefits, permits and price that’s right for you is probably the smartest decision of all.

Our Services – We at the Project Centre @ Beaconsfield or Hallam branches can provide you our significant experience in preparing the building plans and arranging all permits for your Louver Verandah project. Once you have decided who’s product you wish to use or just want some advice contact us to get your project underway.

Disclaimer: I do acknowledge my association as a director of Totally Outdoors one of Melbourne’s leading opening and closing roof builder’s. We believe our system ticks all the right boxes but I have tried to give you all the issues to consider where-ever you might reside and now the rest is up to you. Totally Outdoors – www.totallyoutdoors.com.au

Do Louver Roofs require a Building Permit?

Do Louver Roofs require a Building Permit is an often asked question by clients when considering building a project with a louver as the roof or the shade slat. The answer is not straight forward as what might appear and will depend upon exactly what the product is and usage the louver and function is performing.

Louver Options available:shade louver profile

Fixed Shade Louvers – often used to purely provide shade, privacy and ambience to the surrounds of a building. These typically are not directing water to a gutter and can be installed vertically and horizontally relative to the effect and outcome proposed.

Opening and Closing Louvers – often this more refers to roofing type outcomes bit certainly not always. Shutters could be viewed as a louver and often these used in window application for shade and privacy. As a roof it will depend if when closed the roof then directs water to a open and closed louver roof

gutter. Often roofing type louver might close to only 35 degrees and therefore not performing the task of a roof but more a shade slat outcome. If performing a closed roof application, a building permit will be required.

Do Louver Roofs require a Building Permit often more relates, not only to the applications referred to above, but also to fact that your “building a structure” with footings, connections to dwelling etc.

So the facts are:

Typically, most building will require a building permit. Long term benefits to obtaining a permit are significant and many but not least ensuring your money is protected via having an independent building surveyor involved ensuring your project is lawful and compliant.

Summary:

Pergolas (ie: Open, Slats (not closed), mesh) if under 20m2

No but Check – may not a building permit but check first your local council requirements for your home as some councils do require a permit due to location of site and other local considerations. If over 20m2 Yes – will require a building permit.

Fixed (any type) or Closed Louver roofs

Yes – will require building permit every time. Some local councils may also require planning permits as well for any building on your property (these requirements normally site specific).

Awnings – mesh or slatted

Not always but Check – awnings “fixed”, “retractable” or “louvers opening and closing” – if water proof directing water to a gutter or to ground and have structures will require a building permit. So best to check with your council if any restrictions or requirements need to be considered or approved before you build.

Building PermitOur experience particularly over the last few years is not getting a permit can be extremely costly and distressing.

We at The Project Centre – Narre Warren will be able to advise you once we know what you want, what else is on site, where precisely you wish project located and where you live. With this information we can assist you.

Given the many project variations, council and building code requirements and refinements we’re finding it increasing difficult to not be suggesting getting a building is required. Better safe than sorry. If it’s not required great. Often you might find that builder you believed in may become strangely very unavailable and generally unregistered and unwilling to assist.

Whilst permits can add a significant cost they may be just worthwhile to ensure your project is not required to be removed or amended (ie: costly further works or approvals) plus the general cost’s to gain compliance that are “not less than double” the normal costs of a permit.

  • Note: A planning permit only provides the information to a building surveyor that if all the building plans reflect the planning permit stamped plans and approval requirements and the associated building information documentation is correct that building surveyor can proceed with issuing a building permit.

Outdoor Rooms – what are they

Outdoor Rooms – What are they?

One of the great things about designing is in the watching and witnessing the changing of peoples needs, trends and visions of whats good or otherwise. Being part of this is invigorating in that watching and learning provides constant ideas and inspiration. Its why we do it. Certainly it’s not about the permit process which need I say more. All this brings me to my thought of the month about Outdoor Rooms – what are they?

In the over 20 years of our direct involvement in backyard developments the Outdoor Room has also undergone a birth and then a continual evolution.

Years -1960’s to mid – late 1990’sMelbourne house before2000

This period saw the minimal change from very simple lean to verandahs to side and rear of dwellings often only 3 or 4 meters long and only 2 or 3 meters wide. Generally just flat roofs and mainly built without plans or permits (or even the thought of one) with simple needs and outcomes. Sometimes these may have be partially enclosed with a cement sheet wall possibly a fixed window but with emphasis on simple and practical. This might loosely therefore be called the outdoor room.

Years !995 to 2010gable verandah timber

In the mid 1990’s we started to see growth and change to what people expected from their outdoor area. TV was starting to feature programs about “doing up your backyard” like Bert’s Backyard plus a range of other like programs. The advent of Bunnings and the active home renovator saw the backyard pergola (although really a Verandah or Patio) becoming a major investment. The new norm now became Gable structures, sunrooms and the development of a range of building product specifically directed to outdoor areas. Improved timber products and colorbond product now had the outdoor backyard in their sight’s. The outdoor room was still not really an item. The big Verandah’s were making their mark but most structures were open and minimal furniture and cooking only the basic BBQ affair.

2010 till nowLouver Projects P1

Now we find the advent of real outdoor living and with that more requirements from what is now being termed The Outdoor Room. What is it?

Well it’s no longer the pretend room that a sunroom 1990’s style was. It really is an outdoor area specifically designed to lounge, dine, cook and play within. The out door kitchen has arrived, smart lighting, heating, sound and TV entertainment, expansive deck’s, feature walls and blinds plus affordable insulated, louver or fixed roofing all providing extended living options for a faction of the cost of extending the existing dwelling or moving home.

Insulated Verandah - brightonWith these changes plans and permits now are a must. Why – not only to ensure your project is legal but also to ensure it works. The budget has moved up but so has the requirements.

These extensive living areas do require the proper consideration to ensure they blend with existing, take account of proposed usage plus add to your total property investment. They require respect and experience to ensure you get the best out of the design.

Outdoor Rooms – What are they?Solarspan Outdoor-room-p2

Well they are still taking shape and the juries out on saying there is any one fixed outcome. This is because they should be what add’s to the dwelling and surrounds plus be a reflection of the owners and their needs and interests.

Your Outdoor Room design should be a reflection of those components and more. There what is it….. well it’s about you and your lifestyle, your needs, your interests

At the Project Centre we can provide you the experience and insight needed to deliver on your outdoor room. Contact us to discuss your needs.

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Do it Yourself Pergolas

Do it Yourself Pergolasapproval stamp

Do it yourself pergola is very much a common father / son, mate / mate project carried out throughout the suburbs of Australia during the spring to autumn months. Pergola or Verandah structures have grown from a simple “lean to corrugated roof” structure to nowadays full on outdoor rooms with kitchens, tv’s, pool table etc., etc.,.

Solarspan---Outdoor-room-p10As those structures are considered an extension to your dwelling (unless less than 10m2 and not attached ) then generally a building permit is required.

The Project Centre has been offering plan and permit solutions for now well over 15 years for those serious do it yourself pergola builders within the Melbourne metro area. Ensuring your project is properly planned, permitted and executed ensure a successful project. We can provide the experience to assist achieving those goals.

Check out our do it yourself brochure for some ideas and things to consider. Link to Do it Yourself Projects

Check out our plan and permit link to do it yourself service

Do I need a building permit – check out this link for  Building Commission

Contact us if your considering getting professional advice and plans prepared for your outdoor pergola or verandah. Ring on (BH) 039796 6899 or provide us your enquiry by

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Louver Opening Closing Roofs

Louver Opening and Closing Roofs.

Recently we have been designing a range of projects featuring Louver Opening Closing Roofs. Not always are we required to nominate a final manufacture we have reviewed a number of manufacturers within Melbourne Metro area. Our review included types of  Louver blades  available, benefits and design styles and limitations both related to louver and their related systems that we could recognise to advise our clients their possible design options. There are certainly some variation between suppliers that are worth considering beyond the general final cost of the project. In other words their not all the same.

Key issues seem to be

Material types of Blades – Colorbond or Aluminum appear to be the two selections available. We have been asked about clear (see through) but I have not seen an option to date.

Spans – Maximum Spans range from approx 3.6 meters to maximum 3.9 +/-. suppliers dependant Bottom line – wider blades seem to provide longer spans. Longer spans seem to encourage more blade defection (sagging). This factor to be considered in blade performance. We have found the need for extreme spans can be overcome with good design. Our preference is to ensure spans are within blades capacity.

Durability – Steel base (with Colorbond or coloured finish against Aluminium (raw or powder coated). Certainly Aluminium blades seem to be popularly favoured. Vergola, Straco for example and a range of other manufacturers still maintain Colorbond blades. The durability is not known but can only assume if installed per manufactures requirements then warranty indications will be achieved. Aluminium seems not to have rust and defection issues that colorbond web conversations suggests. Certainly not the only issue under review but certainly if your near the sea or if warranty of product limited this might be a factor to be considered.

Shape of Blade – shape of blades certainly can vary between manufacturer’s. This seems to a large degree a personal choice issue, although some of the wider blades clearly relate for span issues. No blade I reviewed was what I would call horrible. Frankly, if blade considered can tick off all the building issues then its down to which one appeals and cost.

Colour of Blades – Colorbond blades do seem to have a narrow range of colours available. This can vary between manufacturers – check what your manufacturer can offer as certainly it is generally restricted. Aluminium blades have not colour restrictions as they seem to be powder coated to order. This can help is matching a colour on existing building such as door or window colour. Having raised this issue, I personally favour lighter blade colours due to benefits of light bounce provided by lighter colours. Dark colours tend to close down the feel of the area.

Mechanism of Opening and Closing – the motors, sensors, connections (blades to turning components) are certainly a factor to be considered. The warranty’s all seem to be minimal so the cost to replace a motor in 5 years for example should be considered. Currently, we have only heard of minimal issues related to this factor with no manufacturer being a standout “good or bad” to our knowledge. My own feeling is if the system simple and easily maintained, then less possibilities for things to go wrong or to be costly to repair. Check the opening capacity of blades up to 90 , 120 or 180 degree. Some blades can open a full 180 degree and this I consider a benefit to controlling light.

Warranty – Certainly there does seem to be some variation between manufacturers with the best warranty I have reviewed for blades and pins being Totally Outdoors supplying Eclipse Opening and Closing Louver Blades.

Frames – Our main position on fames essentially comes down to visual outcome. Personally if considering the most expensive roof option (which louvers seem to be if fixed glass not considered) then to “knock up a cheap timber frame” may not offer the best outcome. The general options seem to be Colorbond and Aluminium in the sleek modern feel (I have viewed some some bulkheads in merbau – see top picture), bulkheads using conventional blue board rendered (adjacent picture) or some new hardboard options painted. No right or wrong on what selection you decide on except ensure it blends and adds to the visual outcome of the area you have envisaged. We have designed a range of all of the above.  Note: Note all suppliers offer a full range of frame options.

How can we assist – The Project Centre can provide drafting related to any manufacturer you may chose. There will be manufacturers engineering and specifications be required to ensure design / product requirements are in sync. Contact us to discuss your project.

Links of Interest for Louver Opening Closing Roofs are provided below to assist your review of options, warranties and styles.

Totally Outdoors Pty Ltd – Melbourne Metro & surrounding areas builder using aluminium blades plus a wide rang of frame options. Display Centre available  – click

LouverTek – Melbourne Builder using aluminium blades – click

Stratco – Supplier providing only clorbond blades and frames – click

Vergola International – Supplier using colorbond blades – click

Summary

The Louver Opening Closing Roof is an exceptional roof option if your outdoor area would benefit with the option of controlling the amount of light / shade / heat to both the outdoor area and possibly to the actual dwelling (i.e.: internal room) or public area (restaurant -internal section).

We hope we have provided a reasonable overview of main and important issues you might consider beyond just the final price of your project. Final cost does relate, as we know, very much to performance, durability and usability of the project. We would have loved to provide a tick off comparison but as products specifications and site situation vary it makes it somewhat difficult to review in that format.

We suggest review of web sites and general web forums may also assist you with choosing the right blade and builder for your project or why not contact us to design and provide advice to consider.

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